Window Regulator Cable Detached
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Window Regulator Cable Detached
My passenger window is fully open and not going back up again - I've taken the door card off and found the end of the cable from the regulator:
Can anyone give me any pointers on what to do with it? It's still attached to the motor (which is working fine), but I can't work out where it's supposed to attach, or for that matter if something has broken in the process.
Bad timing given the meet in a week's time. Perhaps I'll turn up with a bin liner gaffa taped over the window...
Can anyone give me any pointers on what to do with it? It's still attached to the motor (which is working fine), but I can't work out where it's supposed to attach, or for that matter if something has broken in the process.
Bad timing given the meet in a week's time. Perhaps I'll turn up with a bin liner gaffa taped over the window...
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Re: Window Regulator Cable Detached
Send a flare to the Facebook club as well, you may get a faster answer since this is urgent
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Re: Window Regulator Cable Detached
I tend to avoid facebook as much as possible but in this case I fear I shall have to make an exception...
Another option I'm considering is coming up with a way to prop the window shut for now since it doesn't really need to open as I'm fortunate enough to have working AC. Of course if I do that then no doubt the AC will be the next thing to go wrong...
Another option I'm considering is coming up with a way to prop the window shut for now since it doesn't really need to open as I'm fortunate enough to have working AC. Of course if I do that then no doubt the AC will be the next thing to go wrong...
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Re: Window Regulator Cable Detached
I think that's the end that attaches to the slider that goes up and down the rail. I'd have thought the plastic has pulled through and unfortunately it isn't fixable. I've often wondered if the guy who sells plastic bits through Shapeways could help us with this.
Sorry.
Propping a window up is a 480 pro-skill... welcome aboard! It will be easier with the regulator out. You have to lower the window a bit to get a bolt out I think. It's a bit tight but not so bad to remove.
(don't be tempted by the cheap ones at Mr. Auto... they are for a 440/460 but they won't listen when you try and explain it is a different car!).
Sorry.
Propping a window up is a 480 pro-skill... welcome aboard! It will be easier with the regulator out. You have to lower the window a bit to get a bolt out I think. It's a bit tight but not so bad to remove.
(don't be tempted by the cheap ones at Mr. Auto... they are for a 440/460 but they won't listen when you try and explain it is a different car!).
1987 Volvo 480 ES, 507274, 217 - Red (Ness)
2006 Citroen C6 Exclusive 3.0 petrol/LPG
2008 Mini Cooper convertible (Mau)
Previous 480's:
J123 CFU -- ES
J449 MNL -- ES auto
D864 CPV -- ES
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2008 Mini Cooper convertible (Mau)
Previous 480's:
J123 CFU -- ES
J449 MNL -- ES auto
D864 CPV -- ES
L691 JFC -- Turbo
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Re: Window Regulator Cable Detached
Joep repairs them, but its not cheap and it has to go to Netherlands. I know someone with some 480 parts - have already asked him for the fog for you. I'll pm you contact details.
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Re: Window Regulator Cable Detached
Thanks Sylvia.
On closer inspection it looks like something has snapped off somewhere as there's broken plastic in the bottom of the door and I can't work out where the cable should attach to loop around so I suspect the bit in question is no longer there as you suggest.jamescarruthers wrote: ↑Sat May 05, 2018 4:04 pmI think that's the end that attaches to the slider that goes up and down the rail. I'd have thought the plastic has pulled through and unfortunately it isn't fixable. I've often wondered if the guy who sells plastic bits through Shapeways could help us with this.
The window itself is pretty firmly stuck where it is so no luck propping it closed either. Looks like I'll have to have a word with the local specialists on Tuesday to see if anything can be done by the weekend. Might end up seeing if I can get a new regulator in time for the weekend and then get the existing one repaired as and when to keep as a spare. Skandix claim to have them as do a few people in the UK, but I'll check the part numbers before doing anything!jamescarruthers wrote: ↑Sat May 05, 2018 4:04 pmPropping a window up is a 480 pro-skill... welcome aboard! It will be easier with the regulator out. You have to lower the window a bit to get a bolt out I think. It's a bit tight but not so bad to remove.
(don't be tempted by the cheap ones at Mr. Auto... they are for a 440/460 but they won't listen when you try and explain it is a different car!).
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Re: Window Regulator Cable Detached
If you buy an aftermarket one, the 'comfort' features won't work - window won't close on the key, or open without a finger on the button but that's not really a problem for a nearside window.
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Re: Window Regulator Cable Detached
Just checked, Joep does a refurb for 60 euros. Postage won't be cheap as they are quite heavy.
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Snazzy - 1993 Paris Blue ES red dipstick 2.0i bought 2001
Lethal Lily - 1991 White Turbo
Paris the Unicorn - 1991 Paris Edition
hubby has
Sven - 1994 Racing Green GT
Evil Eva - 1992 Paris Blue Turbo
no previous 480s - can't bear to sell any
Snazzy - 1993 Paris Blue ES red dipstick 2.0i bought 2001
Lethal Lily - 1991 White Turbo
Paris the Unicorn - 1991 Paris Edition
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Sven - 1994 Racing Green GT
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Re: Window Regulator Cable Detached
First thing to say is if you are going to repair it rather than replace it is STOP PRESSING THE WINDOW BUTTON without the tension the wire will get tangled inside the motor very quickly and make repair much harder.
I’m sure I’ve posted pictures of this but at the moment can’t find them.
I’m sure I’ve posted pictures of this but at the moment can’t find them.
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Re: Window Regulator Cable Detached
I'd forgotten about this handy service he does! Might send my original off to him for repair. dragonflyjewels wrote: ↑Sat May 05, 2018 6:00 pmJust checked, Joep does a refurb for 60 euros. Postage won't be cheap as they are quite heavy.
Postage (x2) plus £60 is probably less than a new one. That's be my choice, then you don't mess around getting the wrong size or one that doesn't know how to do the clever close thing.
1987 Volvo 480 ES, 507274, 217 - Red (Ness)
2006 Citroen C6 Exclusive 3.0 petrol/LPG
2008 Mini Cooper convertible (Mau)
Previous 480's:
J123 CFU -- ES
J449 MNL -- ES auto
D864 CPV -- ES
L691 JFC -- Turbo
F70 MNR -- ES
H858 FGV -- Turbo auto
E981 KHM -- ES (509849)
2006 Citroen C6 Exclusive 3.0 petrol/LPG
2008 Mini Cooper convertible (Mau)
Previous 480's:
J123 CFU -- ES
J449 MNL -- ES auto
D864 CPV -- ES
L691 JFC -- Turbo
F70 MNR -- ES
H858 FGV -- Turbo auto
E981 KHM -- ES (509849)
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Re: Window Regulator Cable Detached
Know I posted pictures somewhere but quicker to post new.
This is what’s broken.
Although it could be the bit of plastic at the other end.
As it should look more like this, notice the metal repair.
And this is what happens inside the motor when you keep pressing the button as I did.
They are repairable, as above, although I should really have done both ends in metal to stop it happening again.I keep meaning to make a How-To.
This is what’s broken.
Although it could be the bit of plastic at the other end.
As it should look more like this, notice the metal repair.
And this is what happens inside the motor when you keep pressing the button as I did.
They are repairable, as above, although I should really have done both ends in metal to stop it happening again.I keep meaning to make a How-To.
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Re: Window Regulator Cable Detached
Bonjour,
I bought that one from a famous french dealer :
https://www.oscaro.com/mecanisme-de-lev ... 882-1561-p
It works very well, and the 'comfort' features do work, as it's driven by the CEM. Just had to modify the wire to use the original outlet.
Here is a pic of the original compared to the Valeo :
David
I bought that one from a famous french dealer :
https://www.oscaro.com/mecanisme-de-lev ... 882-1561-p
It works very well, and the 'comfort' features do work, as it's driven by the CEM. Just had to modify the wire to use the original outlet.
Here is a pic of the original compared to the Valeo :
David
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Re: Window Regulator Cable Detached
Hi David - I managed to get hold of another one that looks identical to the one you've got, haven't got round to fitting it yet as the window is propped shut with a 2x4, and 'temporary' solutions like that always seem to hang around for longer than intended...
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Re: Window Regulator Cable Detached
Hello, I would like help on how to disassemble the piece that attaches to the glass (where there is the green plastic latch that usually breaks, I can't get it out of the track) and some advice on how to replace the latch with a new one more resistant metal. Are there any repair kits on the market? Thanks.
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Re: Window Regulator Cable Detached
There is a 3D printed kit available. Have a search on here. It may be listed at Shapeways but it could be some other 3D printer place too.
Someone kindly sent me one but I haven't used it yet.
Someone kindly sent me one but I haven't used it yet.
1987 Volvo 480 ES, 507274, 217 - Red (Ness)
2006 Citroen C6 Exclusive 3.0 petrol/LPG
2008 Mini Cooper convertible (Mau)
Previous 480's:
J123 CFU -- ES
J449 MNL -- ES auto
D864 CPV -- ES
L691 JFC -- Turbo
F70 MNR -- ES
H858 FGV -- Turbo auto
E981 KHM -- ES (509849)
2006 Citroen C6 Exclusive 3.0 petrol/LPG
2008 Mini Cooper convertible (Mau)
Previous 480's:
J123 CFU -- ES
J449 MNL -- ES auto
D864 CPV -- ES
L691 JFC -- Turbo
F70 MNR -- ES
H858 FGV -- Turbo auto
E981 KHM -- ES (509849)
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Re: Window Regulator Cable Detached
viewtopic.php?t=35752
Here's the part in question: https://www.thingiverse.com/thing:3140751
Up to you to sort out printing, for example via 3D Hubs or similar.
Here's the part in question: https://www.thingiverse.com/thing:3140751
Up to you to sort out printing, for example via 3D Hubs or similar.
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Re: Window Regulator Cable Detached
I have the 3D printed kit but am also struggling to work how to get the slider piece out of the track.Boyscout wrote: ↑Fri Oct 18, 2019 10:43 amHello, I would like help on how to disassemble the piece that attaches to the glass (where there is the green plastic latch that usually breaks, I can't get it out of the track) and some advice on how to replace the latch with a new one more resistant metal. Are there any repair kits on the market? Thanks.
I bought a brand new replacement but its not so well aligned as the original so will try to fix my original one.
1987 Volvo 480 ES, 507274, 217 - Red (Ness)
2006 Citroen C6 Exclusive 3.0 petrol/LPG
2008 Mini Cooper convertible (Mau)
Previous 480's:
J123 CFU -- ES
J449 MNL -- ES auto
D864 CPV -- ES
L691 JFC -- Turbo
F70 MNR -- ES
H858 FGV -- Turbo auto
E981 KHM -- ES (509849)
2006 Citroen C6 Exclusive 3.0 petrol/LPG
2008 Mini Cooper convertible (Mau)
Previous 480's:
J123 CFU -- ES
J449 MNL -- ES auto
D864 CPV -- ES
L691 JFC -- Turbo
F70 MNR -- ES
H858 FGV -- Turbo auto
E981 KHM -- ES (509849)
- jamescarruthers
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Re: Window Regulator Cable Detached
I have the 3D printed kit but am also struggling to work how to get the slider piece out of the track.Boyscout wrote: ↑Fri Oct 18, 2019 10:43 amHello, I would like help on how to disassemble the piece that attaches to the glass (where there is the green plastic latch that usually breaks, I can't get it out of the track) and some advice on how to replace the latch with a new one more resistant metal. Are there any repair kits on the market? Thanks.
I bought a brand new replacement but its not so well aligned as the original so will try to fix my original one.
Does anyone know how to get the slider out of the track, please? I was in great danger of breaking it.
N.B This entire bit, not the arrowed part (pic borrowed from eye of ra):
1987 Volvo 480 ES, 507274, 217 - Red (Ness)
2006 Citroen C6 Exclusive 3.0 petrol/LPG
2008 Mini Cooper convertible (Mau)
Previous 480's:
J123 CFU -- ES
J449 MNL -- ES auto
D864 CPV -- ES
L691 JFC -- Turbo
F70 MNR -- ES
H858 FGV -- Turbo auto
E981 KHM -- ES (509849)
2006 Citroen C6 Exclusive 3.0 petrol/LPG
2008 Mini Cooper convertible (Mau)
Previous 480's:
J123 CFU -- ES
J449 MNL -- ES auto
D864 CPV -- ES
L691 JFC -- Turbo
F70 MNR -- ES
H858 FGV -- Turbo auto
E981 KHM -- ES (509849)