VW concept

JohnTurbo · Post by **JohnTurbo** » Sun Oct 07, 2007 4:37 pm

http://www.rsportscars.com/eng/cars/vw_iroc.asp

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Murf · Post by **Murf** » Sun Oct 07, 2007 5:02 pm

210BHP seems a bit week for a twincharged 2 litre, its hard to judge the performance without the weight and torque figures.
Looks wise, its just a golf thats had something heavy sat on it, longer and wider and flatter

owen080808 · Post by **owen080808** » Sun Oct 07, 2007 5:28 pm

looks good, for what seems to be the way car design is going (podgey everything) it does very well, and appeals to me more than a c30. but then again, 19's on a standard car, why? i guess its because everything has to appear meaner, and 'better' designed than its predecessor that it sits next to on the forecourt to sell, but personally i'm not convinced: think of the bills for tyres!

performance wise, like paul says, if it has 210bhp and weighed the same as a 480 then it could be quite good, in reality it wont and will probably be a bit of a slouch. perhaps they'll treat us to a vr6/r32 type version once they sell enough of the basic ones?

what i do wonder about tho is the upgrade potential of something twin-charged, we all know that upping the boost on turbo's is a relatively easy very effective performance increaser. surely this still has the same if not more potential to rip with minimal tuning? either that or it will all be plastic and controlled by computers which stop you having any fun. i know vw have been making twin charged engines for a few years now and i'm keen to see what happens when they become financially available to someone as humble (and interested in tinkering) as myself.

Murf · Post by **Murf** » Sun Oct 07, 2007 8:13 pm

| '92 turbo + Rich mod : The cause of, and answer to a lot of my problems. Currently needs: Front splitter. Clear clusters. More Auto Glym

| '90 turbo + Seized engine | gone to the volvo dealer in the sky

|'07 Scirroco + Seized engine | gone back to the VW factory to be rebuilt!

owen080808 · Post by **owen080808** » Sun Oct 07, 2007 9:54 pm

but i'm pretty sure those Germans pride themselves on the ability to make very reliable cars (if somewhat dull) that are well thought out and well engineered.

i was once told that any new vw engine prototype must withstand weeks on the rev limiter on an engine dyno before it is approved for construction, but i can't remember the exact figures made me

tho.

aibast · Post by **aibast** » Mon Oct 08, 2007 5:26 am

loks like a VW anwser for C30. look a lot the same. And 210hp from 2.0 eeh, its ok, I think they have udertuned the car, for aftermarket "tuning". 'cos only aftermarket and new part are the thing that keep car makers alive. Thats why new cars are like shit and go bad fast. 170 from 1,7 is a ok to for us.

Good, maby now the price starts droping

martinholmesuk · Post by **martinholmesuk** » Mon Oct 08, 2007 10:59 am

Anyone see Top Gear on Sunday?

Golf idea with W10 engine and lambo brakes.

crazy... shame it's a Golf really.

Big Brother · Post by **Big Brother** » Mon Oct 08, 2007 11:41 am

I saw that, not the best handling car in the world really but bloody fast. Still, not bad for only 8 weeks work.

piper1st · Post by **piper1st** » Mon Oct 08, 2007 5:51 pm

ochh ... go on then ... i'll chuck in my thoughts!

before i get started on the muecus green colour ... i don't like the shape or the seats or the interior in general ... i actually think it looks a little cheap!

as for that colour ... yuk! I suppose they want it to stand out and Seat have knicked Yellow, Ford have reserved Orange, Hyundi have Blue, Nissan have pink ...

Murf · Post by **Murf** » Mon Oct 08, 2007 8:47 pm

not the best handling car in the world

Its funny you say that because as i watched it i could only think, thats exactly what my MR2 is like to a certain extent. Mid engined, RWD,twitchy as hell, powerful and very difficult to drive on the limit. The Mk1 MR2 has the reputation of and is an awesome handling car.
Most modern cars are boring and unrewarding but the feeling you get when you drive something tricky and get it just right is amazing!
On paper my car is quicker than an EVO but in the real world its not, mostly due to the driver. The Evo's electronics and 4wd flatter the driver into thinking they are Colin Mcrae. My car gets driven medium fast in the dry and crawls in the wet, but when i drive it i enjoy it because i know its me thats doing it and not the ABS, TRACS, electronic diffs etc etc, i think thats what the Golf is about.

It was funny watching Stig drive like a Pussy though, he was scared of it!!

martinholmesuk · Post by **martinholmesuk** » Mon Oct 08, 2007 9:07 pm

It was funny watching Stig drive like a Pussy though, he was scared of it!!

I was saying just that to my mate tonight.

98kellrs · Post by **98kellrs** » Mon Oct 08, 2007 10:48 pm

Surely you mean Cuddles?