T5 engine to 480 Turbo

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T5 engine to 480 Turbo

Post by madtuning » Tue Jun 12, 2007 9:14 am

Hi all!

Is it possible to put a T5 engine under the 480`s hood?
I heard thats too big and it doesn t fit!
Does anyone done this?
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Post by pol » Tue Jun 12, 2007 10:09 am

It's the same person!

Haven't you tried yet? I dont think anyone here has done it, so go on, get to work!

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Post by madtuning » Tue Jun 12, 2007 10:24 am

pol wrote:It's the same person!

Haven't you tried yet? I dont think anyone here has done it, so go on, get to work!

pol
yep, i posted it here ćos i was thinking the engine problems are something else
It sounds a lil´bit more tuning&tweaking
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Post by madtuning » Tue Jun 12, 2007 10:29 am

I think if itÅ› fit itÅ› going to be a bit crazy 480
About 40% to wheels :lol:
But nothing, i think isn´t impossible, just must try :D

I hope to find here some theory, before i buy an engine(cost ca.800 ukpns)
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Post by Roo » Tue Jun 12, 2007 10:59 am

pol wrote:It's the same person!

Haven't you tried yet? I dont think anyone here has done it, so go on, get to work!

pol
I know! I was redirecting back to the first post which had a reply. :)

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Post by Guff » Tue Jun 12, 2007 2:44 pm

Wouldnt a T4 engine be an easier fit? Should pretty much line up with the 480 mounts shouldnt it?

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Post by pol » Tue Jun 12, 2007 2:49 pm

Why do you say that? Is it a renault engine?

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Post by aibast » Tue Jun 12, 2007 4:35 pm

T5 is a good known killer power :) I don't know about traction on these torques but who knows. Maby a T4 swap would be a bit easier.
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Post by Guff » Wed Jun 13, 2007 2:05 pm

pol wrote:Why do you say that? Is it a renault engine?

pol
Yeah, as far as I'm aware it's the same as the renault engine.

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Post by JohnTurbo » Wed Jun 13, 2007 2:46 pm

And theres me thinking the T4 is just a T5 with a cylinder lopped off.
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Post by Ettore Bugatti » Wed Jun 13, 2007 2:49 pm

The T4 engine is a Volvo engine although versions of this engines has been put in to Laguna's (RTI 16V) and Safranes. It is based on the Volvo white block (5 and 6 cylinders found from the 850 and V90).
Besides the size, there's an weight advantage (above the t5 block when considering a swap into a 480). It is probably around 30kg lighter.
But it wont be an easier swap because both (T4 and T5) requires new engine and gearbox mounts, custom drive shafts and reconnected ECU's.
So if want to put labour in it, then better go bananas with it. IMHO
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Post by JohnTurbo » Wed Jun 13, 2007 3:18 pm

I'd say if you measured the distance between chassis legs, the T4 would equate to a much easier swap.
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Post by madtuning » Thu Jun 14, 2007 10:29 am

JohnTurbo wrote:I'd say if you measured the distance between chassis legs, the T4 would equate to a much easier swap.
i was wondering too that T4 is better to fit on
T5 is sheaper in our country :kill:
i am confused what to do :cryhard:


i quess the only way is modified b18ft+T3

does anyone knows, which gearbox can be fit to take out more torque and hp off b18ft??
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Post by JohnTurbo » Thu Jun 14, 2007 10:55 am

A t5 might well shoehorn...it just might require a lot of work.

Bolting a t3 onto a b18ft just seems like an irritating solution, probably more work in the end than grafting in a whole different engine.

- Theres not really enough room, the engine mounts aren't good enough, the gearbox isn't good enough. Theres no easily available, tougher gearboxes to fit.

Just seems like the guys who've tried T3s have struggled.
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Post by madtuning » Thu Jun 14, 2007 12:31 pm

JohnTurbo wrote:A t5 might well shoehorn...it just might require a lot of work.

Bolting a t3 onto a b18ft just seems like an irritating solution, probably more work in the end than grafting in a whole different engine.

- Theres not really enough room, the engine mounts aren't good enough, the gearbox isn't good enough. Theres no easily available, tougher gearboxes to fit.

Just seems like the guys who've tried T3s have struggled.
but there is a few guys who did that(T3 onto a b18ft) and seems like its easier to fit T5 or T4 engine and other gearbox

so i made my joice:i have a T3 from VW LT and one man who sells me a second engine b18ft to fix it capitally, cos my old engine is dead :cryhard:

Its going to be a hard work to do all the stuff but, who knows...
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Post by aibast » Thu Jun 14, 2007 12:50 pm

I can help you with it if you want ;) The engine i have still has its oil in it and the gearbox also. How it runs, I don't know. It's off my parts car. But still you have to make a overhall. Maby you can fit the T3 into a different place with a custom exaust manifold. Maby under the car :D
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Post by Ettore Bugatti » Thu Jun 14, 2007 3:31 pm

I never understand why a 120hp diesel turbo would work on a heavily modified B18FT with 200hp.
Isn't there a more modern solution? A GT series turbo?
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Post by aibast » Thu Jun 14, 2007 3:51 pm

tubo is a basic airfan powered by exhaust gasses. That is it. Its just one mechanical fan. It doesn't make a difference, where it came from :)
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Post by madtuning » Fri Jun 15, 2007 7:38 am

Ettore Bugatti wrote:I never understand why a 120hp diesel turbo would work on a heavily modified B18FT with 200hp.
Isn't there a more modern solution? A GT series turbo?
diesel turbo has more effect at low rpm i quess
i just have a turbo from LT diesel engine and want to try how it works with b18ft
someone in this forum told too that volvo 940 2.4 turbo is effective thing on b18ft
volvo 940 turbo is the same as LT s
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