480 Turbo + Â£Â£Â£Â£s in mods = Ferrari beater!

L8ERS · Post by **L8ERS** » Fri Oct 13, 2006 10:06 pm

Earlier this PM I was at a Halfords having my light bulbs changed (long range ones, i'm a newbie!) and got chatting about my car with a motor mechanic. This is what I learnt;

Â£4000 approx for turbo bearings upgrade = up to 500 bhp
Air intake mod = up to 15 / 30 bhp
Larger intercooler = 40 /50 bhp

Any thoughts anyone?

Anyone going to try these upgrades?

I await news of a Ferrari beater - the ultimate Q-car

JohnTurbo · Post by **JohnTurbo** » Fri Oct 13, 2006 10:39 pm

Lol, my thoughts are he aught to be locked in a cage. You could have a 30kw refridgeration uni instead of an intercooler and only gain 2-3 horses.

Roo · Post by **Roo** » Sat Oct 14, 2006 8:12 am

JohnTurbo wrote:Lol, my thoughts are he aught to be locked in a cage.

Like most things in halfords, shite!

chris1roll · Post by **chris1roll** » Sat Oct 14, 2006 8:36 am

Dude, have you seen the size of the intercooler? He obviously hasn't! Its almost the same size as an ES radiator!

You will not get anywhere near 15-30hp with an intake mod either. Trust me.

I'm struggling to get my head round the first one too... four grand just to put 360deg bearings in the turbo, and thats supposed to give you 500hp....hmmm

clubman_dan · Post by **clubman_dan** » Sat Oct 14, 2006 8:43 am

someones talking bolloks methinks, seems common with halrauds employees, i remember a guy talking to me about his mates 1380 mini with 400hp and revving to 11,000 rpm and there was more to come.

errrrrrr. no!!
DAN

Agwa Moose · Post by **Agwa Moose** » Sat Oct 14, 2006 10:38 am

clubman_dan wrote:i remember a guy talking to me about his mates 1380 mini with 400hp and revving to 11,000 rpm and there was more to come.

Hate to say it but that's partly true, one of my mates had a mini a few years back, it was a 1375 Redline (that what it said on the back anyway), revved to 11000rpm, sounded like a bike coming down the road, it was scary fast (for a mini) but nowhere near 400hp, and it's unlikely the engine could take that much power anyway, the gearbox definitely can't

Was great fun seeing the look on the faces of the XR3/astra gte boys though as it left em behind

Back on topic...

Halfords was opened by some cattle farmers that moved to the city and missed the smell of bullshit, so they did something about it...

Don't know if that's true but it sounds likely....

J

clubman_dan · Post by **clubman_dan** » Sat Oct 14, 2006 8:32 pm

how long did the crank bearings last on that? he must of had it bloody well balanced and lightened! was it a short stroke engine? i must admit i am a bit skeptical about it. maybe it did rev to 11,000 rpm but it surely didn't last long! don't forget the a series engine fitted to the mini is over 50 year old design now and only has a 3 bearing crank fitted!
more info please! i am interested!

Agwa Moose · Post by **Agwa Moose** » Sat Oct 14, 2006 10:34 pm

Don't really know much more about it to be honest, what I do know is it was bloody quick

Until I saw that one though I thought the A series engines only went up to 1275 but obviously not.... unless it was a conversion or bored out lump, dunno but thats how he bought it so it's anyones guess, I've tried looking for info online but not found anything which is annoying but justs makes me more convinced it was a conversion job, also it was the clubman front type

Didn't last long to be honest, but not through engine problems, it had an argument with a tractor and came second (messy), shame really, was a fun little car

J

JohnTurbo · Post by **JohnTurbo** » Sat Oct 14, 2006 11:55 pm

i've known of a few motorbike engined minis. They match all these claims.

clubman_dan · Post by **clubman_dan** » Sun Oct 15, 2006 8:37 am

thats another story altogether, they are mental! theres a mini with a turbo hayabusa engine around, 0-60 in about 3 seconds!!!!

http://zcars.org.uk/index.htm check out the specs on the mini monte carlo and hayabusa turbo !!

bbf · Post by **bbf** » Sun Oct 15, 2006 10:00 am

that's not a mini, that is only looking like a mini. one could easely build any type of car with this construction.

Ettore Bugatti · Post by **Ettore Bugatti** » Sun Oct 15, 2006 9:05 pm

Well if we're off-topic.
You really need a 16V twincam head on the A-series and a turbo to run well above 225bhp, but then you will get problems to put this power on the wheels, since the gearbox wont be reliable over 100bhp.
But I do believe that more then 100bhp is enough to wet your pants in a mini.

clubman_dan · Post by **clubman_dan** » Sun Oct 15, 2006 9:26 pm

very OT!
mine has 111bhp and its bloody scary!

Jamo · Post by **Jamo** » Mon Oct 16, 2006 12:19 pm

L8ERS wrote:Earlier this PM I was at a Halfords having my light bulbs changed (long range ones, i'm a newbie!) and got chatting about my car with a motor mechanic. This is what I learnt;

Â£4000 approx for turbo bearings upgrade = up to 500 bhp
Air intake mod = up to 15 / 30 bhp
Larger intercooler = 40 /50 bhp

Any thoughts anyone?

Anyone going to try these upgrades?

I await news of a Ferrari beater - the ultimate Q-car

This post can't be serious?

15-30 bhp air intake mod

What a load of bollox, air intakes are only better when getting cold air, 5bhp max with a decent cold air feed.

40-50 bhp large intercooler

LMAO the 480 has one of the most efficient IC on a car, the larger the IC the bigger the pressure drop in the turbo system BTW so too big and you lose BHP!

Charge Cooler is the only was to gain BHP like that, a good one can gain you up to 12 bhp if the original IC is not that good.

Does this guy own a Saxo or a Rice banger?

rapid R5 · Post by **rapid R5** » Wed Oct 18, 2006 1:33 am

They may have a big intercooler, but not much air is getting through that nosecone!

Also, if that guy can get 500brake out of my engine, why is he working at halfrauds!!!!

Halfrauds are only good if your stuck for something on a sunday afternoon and everywhere else is closed.

steve

rpruen · Post by **rpruen** » Fri Oct 20, 2006 8:44 pm

rapid R5 wrote:They may have a big intercooler, but not much air is getting through that nosecone!

Plenty of air gets through the grille, and because it does a 90 degree turn to get through the fins on the intercooler, the cooling is enhanced.

That's why you shouldn't remove the ducting under the nose cone, it there for a good purpose. Experiments with a charge temperature gauge prove this, at least to my satifaction.

It is however a bastard on the dyno, because it is very hard to get the airflow to the grile, it's too low down for most blowers.

Richard

haz@nocturnal_development · Post by **haz@nocturnal_development** » Sun Oct 22, 2006 2:20 pm

yeah rite lol. the problem at halfords is that there's too many chavs goin there with too many chinses wisper stories.

so what turbo is it for that price ???
i've spent less than that on ma full conversion. i use no airfilter, a t5 intercooler and a large t28. it may not beat all ferrari's but ran a 4.7 0-60 at trax and constantly runs mid 12 sec 1/4 mile, and if i saw one at the lights i'd have a go, same for the usual porsches that i see but dont bother anymore

haz

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