1.7 ex manifold on 2.0L. YES

joe larue · Post by **joe larue** » Sat Apr 30, 2005 5:20 pm

hI all see my post, make 2.0i quicker- tuning tweaking-p3 regards joe

JayTee · Post by **JayTee** » Mon May 02, 2005 3:43 pm

thanks for the pics mate
it looks as though its been welded perhaps thats the way to go
take a 2.0l manifold chop it just after the bolts and get someone with welding skills to weld on the tubular sections from the 1.7 manifold
as to how much it would cost and what gains could be made I don't know
however I would like to find out

felyx · Post by **felyx** » Mon May 02, 2005 5:09 pm

cost about Â£30 for a tig weld JAY TEE in keynsham but you have to mark it out and have the lengths correct and i can get it chrome plated if you wanr for Â£35.

cheers felyx PM me if you want it done payment on delivery

joe larue · Post by **joe larue** » Mon May 02, 2005 5:19 pm

JayTee wrote:thanks for the pics mate
it looks as though its been welded perhaps thats the way to go
take a 2.0l manifold chop it just after the bolts and get someone with welding skills to weld on the tubular sections from the 1.7 manifold
as to how much it would cost and what gains could be made I don't know
however I would like to find out

looks entirely unaltered i think its the photo angle. was a welder once...i can tell. regards joe

JayTee · Post by **JayTee** » Mon May 02, 2005 5:52 pm

@ felyx thats not bad mate worth considering .
by the way haven't seen ya about for a while do you still use the ashton
bypass ?

@ joe perhaps you could put the photo on photobucket for others to see
I'm no welder but it seems to have a join in the pic you sent to me

felyx · Post by **felyx** » Mon May 02, 2005 6:19 pm

@ jay tee yeah i still use the L.A bypass but you wouldn't of recognised me in my green 1996 saab turbo . saw you a couple of weeks ago KANING it down the weston bypass towards safeway ,face full of white knuckle joy, rear spoiler looks good BTW

JayTee · Post by **JayTee** » Mon May 02, 2005 6:43 pm

felyx wrote: KANING it down the weston bypass towards safeway ,face full of white knuckle joy, rear spoiler looks good BTW

that would be me kinda love the drive

I'll look out for you in the saab mate

joe larue · Post by **joe larue** » Mon May 02, 2005 9:21 pm

hi me brains brains wrung out trying to do photobucket. regards.[http://photobucket.com/albumsy167/larue1457url][/url]

Turnipman · Post by **Turnipman** » Wed May 04, 2005 8:03 pm

Ok here 2 of the best pictures i could of the manafold on my 94 2.0litre, its never had this replaced either.

Not sure which one this is to honest. What would it take to get brand new desgined manafold made big and shinny etc.

Years ago a friend of mine had a 1.7, which had to have the manafold replaced cost him an arm and a leg cos they to either lift or drop the engine to conect it. Not sure this was entirely nesessery.

Tom

rpruen · Post by **rpruen** » Wed May 04, 2005 9:35 pm

Turnipman wrote:Years ago a friend of mine had a 1.7, which had to have the manafold replaced cost him an arm and a leg cos they to either lift or drop the engine to conect it. Not sure this was entirely nesessery.

Tom

A nice new manifold from Longlife (yes they make them) will cost you 450 quid or so, mostly due to the amount of work involved and the number of strange shape bends required.

You would also need to know what is required, since making a copy of the 1.7 manifold in bigger tube won't work. Sadly manifolds don't scale like that

Richard

chris1roll · Post by **chris1roll** » Wed May 04, 2005 9:48 pm

That picture is a standard 2.0 manifold, as far as i can tell. The 1.7 has two lengths that come up higher that the other two......roughly.

Turnipman · Post by **Turnipman** » Thu May 05, 2005 8:02 am

Not sure there is much of difference, the 2litre one seems to take a more direct route (less bendy) and might be smidgin smaller. Untill there comes the time tha i need to replace my manafold i don't think i will be attempting this mod.

450 thats a fook load for a new manafold, I was thinking that felix lives in or around bristol, as we all now the home of chaved up cars. Hense why you seem to get things done wicked cheap and actually get it done, like the clutches you got done well impressed with the cost of those. What i am getting at is fuck longlife get some chav garage to make one much much cheaper.

So just increaseing the cc doesn't help with getting better flow?

Logic says less bends and more room for gas to pass makes more BHP. I have no fucking idea.

Turnipman

Jamo · Post by **Jamo** » Thu May 05, 2005 8:50 am

Waste of money on the 2l Â£450 for a manifold!

For the money get a fast road cam and head porting.

But then ya pays your money and takes your choice.....................

JohnTurbo · Post by **JohnTurbo** » Thu May 05, 2005 10:53 am

yeah, on an n/a a cams always gonna be the most bang for your buck.

rpruen · Post by **rpruen** » Thu May 05, 2005 10:20 pm

I agree with you Jamo / JT.

Sadly the 480 is a bit of a bastard of a car to make a manifold for. If it where some sort of crossflow, then it would be reasonably cheap.

Talking to several companies about this, it seems that teh 480 is the most difficult they have come across. The way it's all fitted together makes it a lot of work to match the pipe ends to the ports / flanges, and still have everything fit in the available space.

I dare say you could find someone who would cut off the old pipes, and replace them with a random shape/size bit of stainless. That would be cheaper, but isn't likely to have any sort of positive effect on performace.

Richard

joe larue · Post by **joe larue** » Fri May 06, 2005 5:11 pm

hlo, so cos ive got a steel ex manifold on my 2.0 how much extra h.p. have i got? eyh. best joe.

martinholmesuk · Post by **martinholmesuk** » Fri May 06, 2005 7:11 pm

IMO I think the turbo engine is your best bet. I got 200 or whatever bhp all thanks to Richard and for Â£450 you get a turbo engine in your 480 and some more power + lots more.

felyx · Post by **felyx** » Fri May 06, 2005 7:30 pm

@turnipman i think looking at your manifold piccies that somebody has repaired earlier in its life.

cheers Felyx

atex61 · Post by **atex61** » Sun May 15, 2005 7:38 pm

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SanPhire · Post by **SanPhire** » Mon May 16, 2005 10:37 am

Would appreciate that atex - the big Q of can we get a 1.7 manifold onto the big 2.0!!
The manifold from my dad's 440 1.7 SPI was once flow-tested (or whatever it is my dad does for a living...) and was declared a very nice bit of kit. I heard Porche had something to do with it?!?
Not the same story with the 2.0 tangle... very restrictive, nasty nasty bit of pipe-work! Grr!

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1.7 ex manifold on 2.0L. YES

1.7 ex manifold on 2.0L. YES

not a welding mod

1.7 manifold on two litre

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