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Errrrm caliper adjuster???

Posted: Thu Jan 06, 2005 1:19 pm
by johnd
Went to undo the 5mm allen head thing and what apeared to be oil started to pour out so tightened it again. Any ideas? Might just be water I suppose?????

Cheers

John

Posted: Thu Jan 06, 2005 1:32 pm
by Murf
:shock:

Posted: Thu Jan 06, 2005 2:17 pm
by rpruen
Unfortunatly it's likely to be brake fluid.

Not a particularly good sign.

I'd say it's a good idea to invesigate further.

Richard

Posted: Thu Jan 06, 2005 3:47 pm
by chris1roll
Seals in the Caliper is knackered.
It was brake fluid coming out.
Seems to be a relatively common problem, I've seen it a few times.
Looks like you'll be having to replace the caliper, unless you can get it reconditioned, but that would leave you without a car.

Posted: Thu Jan 06, 2005 4:31 pm
by johnd
:shock: ....hmmm not good! Brakes are working fine though with no visible leaks. Could it just be a leak around the adjuster itself?

I am trying to undo the right allen head bolt aren't I? I notice that there is a 7mm bolt in a rubber sleeve, under a rubber bung aswell. Whats that one for?

Now where was that thread again on fitting 240 four-pots????

Cheers

John

Posted: Thu Jan 06, 2005 5:04 pm
by chris1roll
Thats the right one you are doing.
The ones in the rubber sleeve are for removing the caliper from the car.

The brakes will work as they are, but if the seal around there has gone, its likely the others won't last much longer, if it was me i woud change it right away, don't take chances where the brakes are concerned.

Posted: Fri Jan 07, 2005 5:25 am
by mogge
Hi!

If there is a leak by the adjuster thats no problem, it is the sealing round the adjuster thats broken (o-ring in swedish) If the allen head sealing holds thight it´s no problem!

/Jonas

Posted: Fri Jan 07, 2005 9:26 am
by bbf
i'd say so, but you'll also have to to flood the earea betwen adjuster and alen head sealing so there's no air in it.

Posted: Fri Jan 07, 2005 10:13 am
by Murf
o-ring in swedish
let me translate it for you:

o-rIng :lol:

Posted: Fri Jan 07, 2005 10:14 am
by mogge
Hi!

I´d say you dont. Probably the sealing isn´t totally wasted so fluid will slowly run to the adjustment space. But i dont think it will impact on the brake handling.

/Jonas

Posted: Fri Jan 07, 2005 12:52 pm
by rpruen
This is a part of the brakes, don't take the chance that it may be ok. Change it, because if it does fail you may end up hurting yourself or someone else.

I also agree with whoever said the air in the adjuster part may get into the braking system. If you can squeze fluid in, then the air can also go the other way, it's got no where else to go (unless something else is leaking as well).

Richard

Posted: Fri Jan 07, 2005 4:39 pm
by mogge
Hi!

Well well, you have a point there!

But the price of the calipper and the gain is not worth it, air will not return to inside the calipper, air will stay att the highest level.

It is possible to change the oring, see www.480center.com /topics / chassie /renovera bromsar (page down at moment)

/Jonas

Former car mechanic

John mate!!!!!!!

Posted: Fri Jan 07, 2005 5:29 pm
by catgroom
oh and John,I posted about the 240 4-pots a few months back.DBS from memory informed me that due to measurements/fabricating involved it was far from viable mate!

I was pissed off too!!!!!!

and yeah the calipers?Change it big boy!!!!!!!! :D

Posted: Fri Jan 07, 2005 6:01 pm
by Murf
this is probably going to sound stupid but ages ago i read about a guy with a mk2 granada who wasnt impressed with his brakes (obviously, it being an old Ford!)
he rigged up a PAS pump as some sort of mega brake booster (instead of the servo) apparently the effects were amazing and still retained all the brakes feel.

anyone know about this sorta stuff and want to comment whether this would be viable?? :D

Posted: Fri Jan 07, 2005 6:44 pm
by mogge
Hi

Here the right link http://www.480center.com/servlet/user?a ... cle&id=317

Sorry, it´s in swedish.

Murf, your right, foor an example AUDI used the powersteering as booster for the brakes. (you get even pressure, and higer) so you inly need the valve to install it.

Catgroom, i agree, real racecars have solid brakecalippers, they dont bend when brakeing as the standard flooting one does (but these are simplier and cheeper)

/Jonas

washers

Posted: Mon Jan 17, 2005 3:22 pm
by felyx
i'm sure if the 7mm allun key caps have bronze wahsers on them then it is designed to keep fluid in behind just like the oil sump washer etc.
cheers felyx

Posted: Mon Jan 17, 2005 6:40 pm
by chris1roll
I think its more likely to be to keep water and shit out.... One car we found had plastic bolts instead, probably because the allen bolts seize in.

Posted: Fri Feb 25, 2005 11:29 am
by MrE
Chris, if you remember my car had yellow plastic screw in caps that looked factory fitted. I assumed they changed the design as the caps own seize in. I had brake fluid leak from the adjuster on one of my rear calipers, annoying as i'd only just painted them, found a spare caliper, quick swap and bleed...job done and peace of mind.

Posted: Fri Feb 25, 2005 5:07 pm
by chris1roll
still does on one side.

Conclusion, it isn't designed to be a fluid seal!

Posted: Fri Feb 25, 2005 6:46 pm
by MatBat
heh my turbo just failed her MOt on one thing.

-----fluid leaking from adjuster.------

Have now replaced the caliper so will ge a fresh MOT tomorrow :D

Then need to wait until Monday to get tax :(