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Upgrade from hub to no hub

Posted: Sun Mar 31, 2024 9:04 pm
by Douglas
Hello!

I've just started taking apart the rear brakes on my 480 which hasn't been in trafic since 1999! I'm planning to do a rebuild of the brakes as they are pretty much ruined. But for the rear discs, I find it quite hard to find reasonably priced discs with hubs. And for me it would be alot cheaper and also make it easier to repair in the future and upgrade to hubbed brakes. As far as the dimentions go, I can't really see a problem with the wheel bearing and the dimentions of the disc.

It's an 1988 Turbo non ABS.
Has anyone tried this or will i have to try? :lol:
I'm thinking to just upgrade to non hub with the abs ring.

Re: Upgrade from hub to no hub

Posted: Tue Apr 02, 2024 5:55 am
by jifflemon
The whole hub assembly bolts to the axle with 4 bolts. Very simple to swap over.

Re: Upgrade from hub to no hub

Posted: Tue Apr 02, 2024 4:52 pm
by Alan 480
jifflemon wrote:
Tue Apr 02, 2024 5:55 am
The whole hub assembly bolts to the axle with 4 bolts. Very simple to swap over.
assuming that the bolts can be removed, there might or might not be the remains of a hexagon on th eback of the last three I've had so best to assume use of angle grinder to remove?

I think that they are bolted from outer towards inner and not sure if that will make life easier to chop the head off the bolt rather than the restricted access on inner face? I assume that they are NOT threaded into cross-beam / axle?

best to opt for 'high tensile' bolts or Allen screws, the latter are usually high tensile by default (12.8) but set pins can range from 4.4 /4.6 (AKA toffee) to 12.8 'proper job?

Re: Upgrade from hub to no hub

Posted: Tue Apr 02, 2024 5:27 pm
by Douglas
I've come to the conclution that it should not be a problem to fit a hub to a non hub car. I'll update when I've done the upgrade.


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Re: Upgrade from hub to no hub

Posted: Wed Apr 03, 2024 5:46 pm
by Alan 480
Douglas wrote:
Tue Apr 02, 2024 5:27 pm
I've come to the conclution that it should not be a problem to fit a hub to a non hub car. I'll update when I've done the upgrade.


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aye if item 12 or 20 can be removed/destroyed .. . . ., mine appear as a 'fused' item :shock:

Re: Upgrade from hub to no hub

Posted: Thu Apr 04, 2024 4:04 pm
by Jay-Kay-Em
The axle (24) has just one part number, so that must mean the four spindle mounting holes are universal. In which case, its just finding the parts you need to do the swap.

As Alan has said, does mean fighting with this...

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My mk2 Golf is a combined disc/hub affair...

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Like you say, nuisance when it comes to needing just "disc & pads" plus it limits your choices for upgrades should that be your thing.

Let us know how you get on.

Re: Upgrade from hub to no hub

Posted: Thu Apr 04, 2024 7:05 pm
by Douglas
Jay-Kay-Em wrote:
Thu Apr 04, 2024 4:04 pm
The axle (24) has just one part number, so that must mean the four spindle mounting holes are universal. In which case, its just finding the parts you need to do the swap.
In my understanding, I should not have to remove these bolts to part 14 inorder to do this swap. As the car is non-ABS I don't need the hole for the sensor. And most of the hubs you can buy come with the abs-ring which should not conflict with the swap.
Jay-Kay-Em wrote:
Thu Apr 04, 2024 4:04 pm

Like you say, nuisance when it comes to needing just "disc & pads" plus it limits your choices for upgrades should that be your thing.
Yes this is exactly why I'm doing this! I don't want to press new bearings and have the bearing and disc as one unit. Also, you can actually find new parts and not rely entirely on NOS stocks.

I'll update as soon as I done the swap. Unfortunatly I don't have a lot time to put into the 480 at the moment. But I'll update my progress as soon as I done it!