Auto to manual conversion

martinholmesuk · Post by **martinholmesuk** » Sun Apr 09, 2006 10:47 pm

Hello,

OK, so if I was to come back from New Zealand and wanted to change from auto to manual then I would need.

a turbo M59 gearbox, manual subframe, pedal box, clutch, manual engine rubber mounts. cables, gearstick.

What about

ECU / Flywheel sensor / driveshafts

Are these different?

volviz · Post by **volviz** » Mon Apr 10, 2006 11:47 am

I think flywheel too

Milosz_480 · Post by **Milosz_480** » Mon Apr 10, 2006 5:44 pm

Subframe from auto got different wishbbone mountings. So 2 wishbones, not sure about driveshafts, CV joints. Can't think about anything more now.

stu chacks · Post by **stu chacks** » Mon Apr 10, 2006 5:52 pm

As per Miloz, can confirm the Auto has different wishbone bushes to the manual as just done them this weekend (no photoguide sorry as mashed hand on slipped spanner so wasn't in mood!). You could do with getting 2 turbo's side by side and have a good look Mart, sure there'll be some other hidden gems there somewhere. Performance and fuel economy will be loads better though. Assume your looking at it from stronger gearbox poview?

Stu.

catgroom · Post by **catgroom** » Tue Apr 11, 2006 7:30 pm

Nearside driveshaft is shorter on an Auto Mart.

sakis480 · Post by **sakis480** » Thu Jul 13, 2006 4:13 pm

Is there any possibility to uprate the 4rth gear of the automatic box??? 4000 rpm for 157 km/h for the 2 lit is just of....wanted to have that speed at 3600-3700 rpms......otherwise changing to manual is the best option

Milosz_480 · Post by **Milosz_480** » Thu Jul 13, 2006 4:37 pm

Ofcourse it is possible. Someone need to make a special sprocket with firstly counted number of teeth. I think some engeener can count it.
Wait we've got here a new one, Volviz come on count how many theeth must be on this sprocket

volviz · Post by **volviz** » Fri Jul 14, 2006 8:28 am

Milosz_480 wrote:Ofcourse it is possible. Someone need to make a special sprocket with firstly counted number of teeth. I think some engeener can count it.
Wait we've got here a new one, Volviz come on count how many theeth must be on this sprocket

whenever you need

martinholmesuk · Post by **martinholmesuk** » Fri Jul 14, 2006 1:03 pm

sakis480 wrote:Is there any possibility to uprate the 4rth gear of the automatic box??? 4000 rpm for 157 km/h for the 2 lit is just of....wanted to have that speed at 3600-3700 rpms......otherwise changing to manual is the best option

157km/h that's slow. What's your max speed anyway?

sakis480 · Post by **sakis480** » Fri Jul 14, 2006 8:42 pm

its automatic..the max I could get was something between 190-200 km /h....I think thats the normal according to the site's technical characteristics.........

martinholmesuk · Post by **martinholmesuk** » Fri Jul 14, 2006 8:51 pm

should do 200k just fine, Mine at 120mph was plenty left with standard turbo ecu + the same auto as u

Big Brother · Post by **Big Brother** » Fri Jul 14, 2006 9:03 pm

Shouldnâ€™t you get your manual test out of the way first Mart, if you convert Vader to a manual you wonâ€™t beable to drive him

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sakis480 · Post by **sakis480** » Sat Jul 15, 2006 10:24 am

Before the 2 lit, I had the 1721 turbo engine on....can tell the difference is huge...with the standard turbo could go up to 220+ under circumstances ...it was a very good engine...but the manual box is longer at the 5th than the 4rth of the auto...can say that with the 5th gear on ,at 4000 rpms I was at 160 km /h, now I am at 150 something...also the turbo could easile go up to 5000 rpms while the 2 lit auto (at least mine) cant go more than 4600+-.. perharps its the blody exhaust.....

somehow I believe that the ratios on both type of gear boxes (auto and maual) should be a bit longer at the final gear...for instance, the fuel could be less if someone was travelling at 160 /h, and the rpms were no more than 3600-3700....both type of engines, specially the turbo, can cope easily with the amount of tourqe they offer....... correct me if i m wrong

Chris_C · Post by **Chris_C** » Tue Dec 12, 2006 12:45 pm

Sorry to dig up an old thread here guys, but can anyone confirm if the flywheel needs swapping?

Dealer software reckons that on both auto and manual the have the same flywheel (it's an 89 auto, so early type flywheel if it does have it), but I've never come across this before in other cars, and it seems a bit strange to me, but then there are plenty of cars I havn't had apart

. Anyone been then and know the definative answer?

Cheers, Chris

rpruen · Post by **rpruen** » Tue Dec 12, 2006 5:16 pm

Chris_C wrote:Sorry to dig up an old thread here guys, but can anyone confirm if the flywheel needs swapping?

Dealer software reckons that on both auto and manual the have the same flywheel (it's an 89 auto, so early type flywheel if it does have it), but I've never come across this before in other cars, and it seems a bit strange to me, but then there are plenty of cars I havn't had apart . Anyone been then and know the definative answer?

Cheers, Chris

I can say having taken both engine types apart... You will need a flywheel, the auto has a drive plate that the torque converter bolts to, there isn't anywhere to fit a clutch.

Richard

Chris_C · Post by **Chris_C** » Tue Dec 12, 2006 5:18 pm

Ahh, lame

Cheers for the reply mate! I'll head over to the wanted section and see if anyone has one they'd like shot of!

shimon340 · Post by **shimon340** » Tue Jan 02, 2007 5:46 pm

hello chris!!

Im guessing you're chris_c from volvo300mania!!

Shimon