Service info

hereagain · Post by **hereagain** » Tue Oct 14, 2003 2:09 pm

Hi,

Sorry to pester again...

My car needs to be serviced soon..I wondered what thoughts are on
1) Which Plugs
2) Which Air Filter
3) Which Oil

Any other suggestions, such as injector cleaner etc??

Ben Harris · Post by **Ben Harris** » Tue Oct 14, 2003 3:37 pm

Bosch WR78 Super4 Multi-Point plugs for an ES. I changed the champion plugs which were in mine when I got it (turns out they're recomended for turbo only - thanks Jamo!), and put in the Bosch ones, and it runs even better than it did before!

hereagain · Post by **hereagain** » Tue Oct 14, 2003 3:39 pm

Cheers mate,

I'll keep an eye out for you, I am nr to Godmanchester, Black J plate 480 ES

hereagain · Post by **hereagain** » Tue Oct 14, 2003 3:41 pm

Whoops

gerrsvolvo · Post by **gerrsvolvo** » Tue Oct 14, 2003 7:37 pm

Hereagian
I do not agree with Ben Harris (sorry Ben) on teh point of the sparkplugs.
Buy the original from Volvo.
Thje 480 is to sensitive for its plugs and sparkleads to be playing around
and it may be that you are in the spending more money than when you bought the original plugs.
The air filter buy it at a local autopartshop ..
On the oil matter stya with the sort that is in it.
Do not change to synthetic if it has at the moment non synthetic oil.
If you change the sort you might end up with severe oilleakage.
Good CEM
Gerrsvolvo

Ben Harris · Post by **Ben Harris** » Tue Oct 14, 2003 8:11 pm

No problem Gerrs

The Bosch WR78 Super 4's are listed as suitable for the ES (maybe not by Volvo though, who probably recomend Champion). I 'think' that the Champion plugs that were in my 480, were fitted by a Volvo garage, when it was serviced by the previous owner. Jamo informs me though, that this particular Champion plug (RN7YC) was designed to be optimal for the Turbo, and not the ES.

Anyway.... my 480 runs much better on the Bosch Super 4's, than it did on the Champion's, so when I next come to replace them, I'll be replacing them with exactly the same type.

At the end of the day, it's your 480, and it's up to you which ones you choose to fit!

Air filter wise.... I've got a performance air filter fitted to my ES, and to be completely honest, I can't say I've noticed any improvement (.... or loss) from it. I'd like to say it made it accelerate 300% quicker

, but I can't

However.... I think Gerrs is right about the synthetic oil. I'm sure I've read somewhere that once you've put synthetic based oil in, you can't go back to mineral based oil.

Jamo · Post by **Jamo** » Tue Oct 14, 2003 8:52 pm

The bosch super 4 are the best plugs for the ES by a mile.

The original volvo plugs are crap.

For a turbo the NGK BPR7ES kicks the butt of them easily.

Each to their own, but i do not know one U.K owner personally who uses the original plugs.

Pays ya money and takes ya choice

hereagain · Post by **hereagain** » Wed Oct 15, 2003 10:27 am

I will need to speak to the previous owner about the oil...

gerrsvolvo · Post by **gerrsvolvo** » Wed Oct 15, 2003 12:11 pm

Hi Jamo

I refered to the original Volvosparkplugs from own experience with 2 non turbo ES Â´s.
The NGK plugs (in my humble opinion japanese crap for Harakiri Samurai).
Made the engine run rough at idle changing tot the original plugs improved the idle a lot.

And I toke my wisdom (for what it is worth) from the old forum before the last 2 changes. Was that not the forum from Edwin Koedijk?
There was a huighe traed about the sparkplugs and for teh normal 480ES ist was always start with taking the original parkplugs if you have idle problems.

And by the way I wolud not be surprised if teh original Volvoplugs are cheaper than the Bosch 4 point plugs.

(and maybe you are right if you tyhink that I do not like the Bosch plugs.
As long as I drive cars Biosch plugs did not convine me. The champion plugs ware a lot better on my Daf 33, 44, 55, 66, and Volvo 343 and 340 this al over a milion kilometers)

Good Cem
Gerrsvolvo

Jamo · Post by **Jamo** » Wed Oct 15, 2003 2:07 pm

I do bow to your knowledge of most things Volvo, gerrsvolvo (especially brakes)

But in the case of the Bosch Super 4's driving is believing.

The difference in pick up and acceleration is quite frigthening.

NGK aren't very good for ES the BPR7ES (not book listed for volvo by the way) are one of the best in the Turbo

It's like all things, technology moves on and both those plugs are the new generation in technology.

A set will cost you Â£10 try them once.

hereagain · Post by **hereagain** » Wed Oct 15, 2003 2:52 pm

I will try the Bosch for now, I do not even know whats in there at the moment, thought I might check the Scrappies in P'boro as well this weekend, see what I can see...

Cheers

dragon · Post by **dragon** » Wed Oct 15, 2003 3:27 pm

I'm about to have a set of super-4's out of my car, is anyone wants them (even have 3 brand new spares) - I didn't find any difference in pickup on my car at all, which is a shame

Jamo · Post by **Jamo** » Wed Oct 15, 2003 4:09 pm

You've a turbo like me.

The reason i got a difference on my turbo was that the sparks in the car were really crappy champion (not RN7YC). Anything was better!

dragon · Post by **dragon** » Wed Oct 15, 2003 4:13 pm

Yeah yeah, don't get me wrong, I wasn't saying the sparks are crap, I was just saying they didn't do anything for me/my motor, because of what my motor is more than anything.

They will still work wonders in most other people's motors - not after silly money either

hereagain · Post by **hereagain** » Wed Oct 15, 2003 4:57 pm

Should I still use Bosche?

Ben Harris · Post by **Ben Harris** » Wed Oct 15, 2003 5:33 pm

DragonLord's got a Turbo, and they're not supposed make as much of an improvement for that. As yours in an ES, you 'should' see an improvement. I should think Gerrs is right about the price though. The Super 4's are probably more expensive than the Champions would be from Volvo themselves.

Doctor67 · Post by **Doctor67** » Thu Oct 16, 2003 5:48 am

I'm driving with BERU 4 electr. in my turbo.
Seems to me they are little bit better than NGK..
To be honest never use original Volvo because they are more expensive..

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